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“Seventh-day Adventist pioneers and their protest against systemic racism” by Kevin Burton is rank error

This is a rebuttal of Kevin Burton’s article in the Adventist Review, which claims that basically everything the early SDA pioneers stood for, was intertwined with a stance against American “systemic racism”.

The original article can be found here:
https://www.adventistreview.org/seventh-day-adventist-pioneers-and-their-protest-against- systemic-racism

Kevin Burton is a Ph.D. Candidate (Florida State University), who teaches in the History and Political Studies Department at Southern Adventist University and is writing his doctoral dissertation on Millerite and Seventh-day Adventist involvement in the abolition movement.

So it should be obvious that he is trying to tie the core of SDA beliefs to his specialty. And it is no wonder that right now his thoughts on the matter of race in the SDA Church are in high demand.

It appears that he is very well read in early Adventist history, as may be imagined. And while he doesn’t appear to be quite as far removed from true SDA belief like George Knight is, he seems to have some similar biases, as he has reviewed a book titled “Adventist Maverick: Celebrating the work of George R. Knight” in which he writes: “Eve sinned before eating the forbidden fruit” and says of this book about Knight that one: “can now drink in the wisdom of Adventism’s most influential author within the last 35 years”.

After George Knight had disparaged Bible writers by calling them “goat herders” at a meeting of his I attended at Southern Adventist University in 2010, I told him directly that all the words in the Bible were from God. He laughed at me. With “wisdom” like that, you can get a pretty good idea whose side Kevin Burton is on.

Anyway, regarding his most recent article in the Adventist Review. He makes quite a bold statement in the first paragraph: “The second advent movement was inseparable from the abolitionist call for the immediate and total destruction of slavery and the demand for equal rights for the oppressed.” Well, it’s odd that no one had that idea until over 160 years after it happened! It is true that many of the early pioneers were abolitionists, but they were first and foremost Seventh-day Adventists who grew out of the Millerite Movement of 1844.

“they made protest against racial injustice inseparable from their Adventist faith.” No they didn’t. This is revisionist history. Mr. Burton seems to have forgotten that not all Adventists were Americans, and that this is not true even of all American Adventists. Some, like Joseph Bates, did so. Many did not. Some Adventists were even Southern sympathizers.

“Adventists were inspired by their Christian faith to fight against systemic racism in America.” Now this term “systemic racism” was not even used back in the 19th century. It has a very specific construct in 2020, as it means police brutality against blacks. Never, ever did “racism” mean that among the Adventists of 160 years ago. Some black Adventists were NOT involved in “black protest”. Painting broad brushstrokes is, in fact, being racist himself.

He speaks favorably of the Bates’ family working against the law prohibiting interracial marriage in Massachusetts, but fails to mention the times that Ellen White, inspired, wrote that “there should be no intermarriage between the white and the colored race.” –Manuscript 7, 1896.

Then Mr. Burton gets in earnest about trying to twist the facts to support his political views: “in the 1850s and 1860s, Sabbath-keeping Adventists petitioned against more issues, like the death penalty (believing that both slavery and capital punishment “represented systems of brutality that coerced individuals””. Well, it’s very possible that a few did write against the death penalty, but, as in the example above of interracial marriages, that certainly was not God’s position! God mandated the death penalty, and to attempt to make us SDA believe in 2020 that our spiritual Adventist forefathers were against what God instituted, is reprehensible.

“The second angel warned that Babylon was fallen, and Millerites came out of the Protestant churches (Babylon) because those churches supported slavery. Ellen White specified that any Seventh-day Adventist holding pro-slavery sympathies must be immediately disfellowshipped.” Now he is just making up history as he goes along. This is completely in error. I’ve read plenty of Ellen White material, and unless he has access to some secret vault articles that the public has no access to, he is not being truthful here. Tellingly, he has not given a reference for this bald- faced untruth. Ellen White makes it clear that the Adventists left the fallen churches because those churches rejected William Miller’s message, showing to all that they weren’t interested in seeing Jesus come back at all. That’s why the Millerites left the fallen churches.
*Reference Advent Movement Illustrated

“Finally, Seventh-day Adventists connected the third angel’s message against worshipping the beast with the antislavery cause. Revelation 13:1-18 reveals that the two-horned beast enforces idolatry, and Adventists identified America as this beast because it professed to uphold religious and civil liberty (the two horns) but, in reality, denied those privileges to religious and racial minorities.6” I have checked out his Ellen White references supposedly supporting this statement. They do nothing of the kind. Check Testimonies Vol. 1 p. 259, 358, & 360. His other reference is to a sermon by Charles Fitch, who died just before October 22, 1844, so never could have even known what the Third Angel’s Message was, as no one understood it until AFTER October 22, 1844.

“By incorporating antislavery arguments into their presentation of the three angels’ messages, Seventh-day Adventists made a protest against systemic racism an important part of their fundamental beliefs. They challenged their spiritual descendants to carry on this faith.” Since we’ve already debunked his claim regarding this earlier, there is no need to do it again. He is just reiterating his falsehood in order to make it stay in your brain, make you feel guilty, and to make you leave the firm platform of truth that God has founded for His renmant church.

Of course we should be against racism. At the same time, we shouldn’t jump on the media’s bandwagon just because this is a hot topic now.

Why do I feel deja-vu all over again, just like what happened after 9/11, and our Adventist “scholars” and “leaders” fell all over themselves trying to make us feel bad for having supposedly anti-Islamic views? When are we SDAs going to wake up, and throw off the chains of Sadducees and Pharisees who are working together to destroy Jesus in the person of his saints?

Let’s be good Bereans, and follow our perfect example, the one altogether pure and lovely – Jesus Christ.

Seventh-day Adventists and George Floyd protests (Black Lives Matter)

Seventh-day Adventist leaders – George Floyd is not about racism, it’s about Marxists forcing their anti-Christian lawlessness on everyone.

My SDA Church leaders have been bending over backwards this month in order to show that they are in-step with the Progressive agenda. Ostensibly it is about anti-racism. But looking at the evidence, it is not about racism as much as it is about Progressives trying to create a crisis in order to get people to come over to their side. And their side is not only racist, but anti-Christian Communism, and pro-lawlessness.

George Floyd had the police called on him by a store owner because he tried to pass a fake $20 bill. When the police arrived, he decided to not obey them, so they used force in order to make him comply. A video captured the scene where he says “I can’t breathe”. He died in the vehicle on the way to the hospital. He was found to have fentanyl in his bloodstream and was Corona virus positive.

The video makes it look like the officer is intentionally trying to kill Mr. Floyd, so many people got angry. This is when professionally trained Marxists jumped up and started marching, rioting, looting and burning. Of course many others just joined in for the thrill of it, and many more stayed away from it. A large portion, if not most of the buildings that were destroyed and shops that were looted were owned by black people. And they killed several black people, including a retired police officer, who were trying to protect their property. This is how we can know positively that the George Floyd riots are not about racism.

Black Lives Matter is a brilliant name for a group, as anyone saying that they don’t agree with them is automatically labelled “racist”, and can get kicked off of websites, or even lose their jobs. Saying the obviously correct thing as a Christian, that “All Lives Matter” brings the same results. So what do they believe?

“We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege”

“We engage comrades”

“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”

“We foster a queer-affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).”

The pictures you’ve just seen all show Seventh-day Adventists marching in SUPPORT of what this anti-Christian group believes. I know some of those marching don’t KNOW that they support that, but that is because they are being played by an organization to achieve devilish goals, without even realizing it.

We SDAs should be vocal in denouncing such an organization, but instead, we are publicly applauding them! For what? To have the applause of men/women/queers etc. One SDA university has even made a scholarship in George Floyd’s name, showing that they want our young people to emulate a man who was in jail several times, pointed a gun at a pregnant woman, tried to pass counterfeit money, resisted arrest etc.

Where was the outcry when our churches were shut down? There were zero marches then, so by marching now, we are showing that following what the world thinks is important is more important than our churches. We are known by our actions.

God will judge for these things, and I don’t want to be anywhere near any of these Judases in God’s remnant church when the slaughtering angel goes forth to do his work – IN Jerusalem.

Satan is getting his ducks in a row, and sadly, many in our Church are obliging him by lining up without him even using any force at all! What will we do when all that hatred (and yes, there is hatred on the Conservative side too), is directed at us SDAs for keeping the Sabbath of the Lord? Instead of marching for our rights to attend church on Sabbath, here we are breaking the Sabbath by marching with the world, supporting we know not what! If we think we can follow the world in its ungodly ways now in order to be praised, and then suddenly turn and follow Jesus when they start coming for us, we are going to have a big reality check.

I believe Ellen White was shown the time we are entering into, and wrote about what our SDA Church would do:
“Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.” SPTB02 p.54.

I’m calling on our SDA leaders – please repent and turn back to following the lowly God-man from Galilee – Jesus Christ, the one who never marched in any political event, and who always stood up for the oppressed in the proper manner.

Jeff Pippenger prophesies Muslims will bomb Nashville on July 18, 2020

Well, Jeff Pippenger seems to have really gone overboard this week. His “Future for America” group put a full page ad in the Nashville Tennessean prophesying that some Islamic group will detonate a nuclear weapon in Nashville Tennessee on July 18, 2020. I met the man once in Holland in 2006, and agreed with most of his teaching, but his insistence on the 2520 which started from nowhere and went nowhere, and his brush off of my personal visit to him where I showed him something from Ellen White’s writings that contradicted his position, made me realize he was not on the straight and narrow.

Here is the nearly complete article:
(RNS) – The editor of the Nashville Tennessean has vowed to investigate how a full-page ad predicting a nuclear attack by Muslims purchased by a breakaway Seventh-day Adventist group ran in the paper.

A version of the ad from Future for America, a “prophecy ministry” based in Arkansas, ran on Sunday (June 21). The ad featured a photo of Pope Francis and Donald Trump in front of an American flag and was filled with dire warnings and a few Bible verses. Its authors claim that Trump will be the last president of the United States and that Trump’s feud with Democrats was predicted by the Bible.

“We are under conviction to not only tell you but to provide evidence that July 18, 2020, Islam is going to detonate a nuclear device in Nashville, Tennessee,” the ad began. It also included a link to a detailed Bible study and website.

On Sunday afternoon, after a backlash appeared on social media, Michael A. Anastasi, vice president and editor of the Tennessean, denounced the ad and said an investigation was underway. The paper reported that its advertising policies forbid hate speech.

“The ad is horrific and is utterly indefensible in all circumstances. It is wrong, period, and should have never been published,” Anastasi told the Tennessean. “It has hurt members of our community and our own employees and that saddens me beyond belief. It is inconsistent with everything the Tennessean as an institution stands and has stood for.”

Bible prophecy teacher Jeff Pippenger of Future for America told Religion News Service in an email that he wrote one version of the ad and a friend from Ireland wrote a different version of the ad, which ran earlier in the week.

Pippenger said the ministry paid for the ad, which he said was inspired by the work of Ellen White, one of the co-founders of the Seventh-day Adventist church.

He said that he and the others behind the ad consider themselves Seventh-day Adventists, “though some such as me have been removed from their membership by the Adventist Church because of our prophetic beliefs.” The ad itself also criticizes what it calls the “backslidden Seventh-day Adventist Church.”
Religion news service article here

Seventh-day Adventist leaders bow to anarchists over George Floyd’s death

It’s really sad to see how so many of God’s church’s leaders bow down to the god of public opinion and media frenzy. This post is in response to articles on the Adventist Review, who deleted nearly all of my comments to their articles.

Right now, Adventist Review has at least 5 articles all of which support the false narrative of “anti-racism”. They are:
1. https://www.adventistreview.org/this-intractable-lie
2. https://www.adventistreview.org/deeds-not-only-words
3. https://www.adventistreview.org/the-work-of-god-will-not-be-finished-until-we-demonstrate-gods-love
4. https://www.adventistreview.org/church-news/story14966-i-am-determined-oakwood-will-continue-to-be-a-center-of-empowerment-and-witness
5. https://www.adventistreview.org/church-news/story14938-only-connection-with-god-can-overcome-global-rise-in-evil

Number 1 is by Wintley Phipps, who has served as the SDA church’s official representative to the U.S. Congress. In it, he talks about how much money he’s made, and moving into an upscale majority-white neighborhood. His claim to racism is that the FBI stopped and asked him questions about drugs because he flies so much. Yes, and white people get stopped and asked too. He also writes: “the shocking savagery of the Puritans and Pilgrims”, which is denigrating the founders of this country, which God has told us thru Ellen White is the greatest country on earth. He also approvingly quotes Nelson Mandela, a renowned Communist who killed many people to achieve his political goals.

Number 2 is by Ella Smith Simmons, a Vice President of the General Conference of SDAs. She writes: “the loss of my great-uncle to the ravages of emotional despair in his inability to cope with unchecked societal injustices”. Yes, so have white people. This idea of blaming all the bad things in life on SOMEBODY is a symptom of someone who is not studying and believing the truth as it is in Jesus Christ. She also says not to “only pray”, in the sense that prayer isn’t very effective……

Number 3 is by North American Division president Dan Jackson. He writes: “a horrible illustration of what happens when men feel that they are superior to others”. Or maybe the police officer was trying to do his job? This brings up one of the clearest sins in all of these “pro George Floyd” articles – they have ALL judged before the time, something Jesus has expressly told us not to do. America used to be a place where people were considered innocent until proven guilty. But with everyone loving Hollywood and a good story, emotions is what holds sway now among many. So when they see a picture or video of something that looks horrible – rush to judgment, and forget about Jesus Christ’s words.

Number 4 is by Oakwood College’s president. It is not worth quoting anything, as it is basically what you can read in any newspaper about how all Blacks are supposedly trodden down by whites. Right. Like that can be easily disproven by just opening your eyes and looking around you. How much does this black man earn? No doubt it’s 5 to 10 times above the average American salary. Phipps? – a multi-millionaire. GC vice president? No doubt well off too, much, much richer in material things than I ever will be (on this earth). There was even a black president in America for 8 years, and by this man’s omission admission, he was complicit in tramping down black people.

Number 5 is by Ted Wilson, also judging before the time.

Where is the outrage when literally thousands of the least of these my brethren are ripped out of their mommy’s wombs and thrown in the trash can every day? No? Nothing? You mean it’s only when the frenzied media barks that God’s remnant church wags its tail? Is it because the little ones aren’t going to loot, rob, steal, burn, shame, or otherwise doing something to you that you don’t like? Where were the strong denouncements of Christians being murdered in Nigeria? Oh, that’s right. They aren’t newsworthy, because they don’t fit the media’s agenda of creating a frenzy to make people emotionally unstable so they will do things they would normally not think of doing – like abolishing police departments.

And that’s what these George Floyd riots are all about – they’re not about racial injustice, but about having power over others. How can I say such a thing? Look at the facts: Many states in America were in lockdown over the corona virus up to this point in time. It was deemed “unsafe” to have protests against the lockdowns, and even Christian churches were closed. But now suddenly everybody is cool with gathering for protests, ignoring what they had said and written literally just days earlier about how bad pastors were for wanting to hold church services.

Of course we should not have racism. Jesus never condones it, even a jot. That should be a “given” among people following Jesus, but as is apparent from all these articles, not just many of the laypeople, but the authors of the articles themselves still haven’t learned the lesson.

Several people killed in the riots were black people. Many, perhaps most of the businesses burned to ground were owned by black people. Media outrage? No, almost nothing, like it was acceptable collateral damage to get to the goal of Satan – anarchy which leads to much killing which leads to a dictator which leads to world control.

And to see SDA leaders playing right into Satan’s hands….it’s beyond sad. It’s evil.

I call on all us SDAs who are complicit in bowing down to the howling mob now to repent, or their end will be even worse than it was for the average Christian during the French Revolution.

Seventh-day Adventist Church makes statement on abortion

In 1992 the SDA Church leaders made an “Official Guidelines on Abortion” document. It was supportive of abortion, thus casting a huge, dark blot on her record. Many supporters tried to play it down as “not being the officially voted on position by the church as a world body”, but it was of course the de facto official position as witnessed by myself in two letters to President Ted Wilson regarding this satanic support for killing Jesus in the womb. I’m also aware of several people who left the church over this issue. I didn’t go quite that far, but came to the point where I refused to recognize Ted Wilson as my spiritual leader.

Well, that’s been changed now in the 2019 Annual Council. The new position is much more biblically based, and makes it emphatic that all the Bible quotes on the subject support life of all innocent humans, including those in the womb. However, in what was most surely a sop to those running SDA hospitals, there is one paragraph that leaves in wiggle room allowing abortion. Worryingly, church leaders showed their reticence to give full support to the document by emphasizing that it is not the church’s official position.

Besides that one paragraph, what troubles me about this new document, is the attitude of President Wilson towards it. He says that this is not to be used to “judge” anybody. Well, we certainly judge church members (and rightly so) if they habitually smoke or beat on the their family members (domestic violence). So why are we putting smoking and DV on a worse plane than killing Jesus in the womb?

God will judge Laodicea righteously for these things, and I pray that if this church founded by God himself doesn’t repent in ashes and turn from this grievous sin completely, that he will judge us with fire and burn down many of our institutions that support killing God.

Here is a link to the new statement on abortion by our SDA church:
SDA statement on abortion

Pastor David Gates’ failed prophecy


With summer 2019 just a day away now, it is time again to call on Pastor David Gates, and those who believed him, to repent of disobeying God’s words, and to repent for lying and believing lies, and to come back to the faith of our forefathers in the Three Angels’ Messages.

Last year, probably the second biggest ripple in the Adventist pond (after church entities rebelling against General Conference authority on the women’s ordination issue) was Pr. Gates’ video sermon “Even at the Doors”. That video on his channel alone got over a 1/4 million views, and probably nearly the same amount on other peoples’ channels who copied it. And this is just on Youtube, no doubt more on other venues. It caused such a bruha, that Pastor Mark Finley, special assistant to President Ted Wilson, made a video just to refute it. And that video got over 100,000 views on Youtube, showing how much interest there was in this issue.

Now Pr. Gates has made outlandish predictions before, especially after he was spectacularly right on the financial crisis of September 2008. He said America was “bankrupt”, that it “owned nothing”, that the banks “have no cash”, that “the dollar is worthless”, that “gas prices can only go up” etc. etc. He based that on the 7 fat years of Pharoah’s dream happening again for some reason on September 11, 2001. Why he believed that Pharaoh’s dream has another fulfillment, and why a terrorist attack would be signal to start that fulfillment, is a huge mystery. Anyway, that would have made the “fat” years end in the fall of 2008. So 2 years after the 7 lean years got started in 2008, supposedly the money was going to be worthless in the fall of 2010. Of course in the background of his sermons at that time, was that 2015 was going to be……… Well, of course that all went and left and passed away, and the economy grew much stronger, America grew much richer, the dollar went up, and gas prices went down. He seemed to be contrite, and his sermons after that fiasco were much more Christ-centered. I didn’t hear any more predictions from him after that until this “Even at the Doors” prediction-filled sermon in 2018.

His basis for this prediction, was that the pope gave a speech to Congress in the capital of America – Washington D.C. in 2015, supposedly on the Day of Atonement for that year (Sep 23), (but actually he got the day wrong – it was Oct 23). He imagined that something about the pope giving a speech in the Capital building fulfilled Daniel’s “Abomination of Desolation” prophecy, which Jesus said we should study. Of course there was no in-depth study showing how this fulfilled any of that prophecy, but it sounded plausible to surface students of the Holy Bible, and they ran with it. Three and half years after that would land exactly on March 23 2019, but showing sloppy studying of the prophecies again, he just said that the prophecy would be fulfilled in “Spring 2019”.

Specifically, he showed on the screen of his sermon video at 42:10 that Rome would attack America in Spring 2019, and that the SDA Church would start persecuting members in Spring 2019. At 43:42 he says clearly: “It is my conviction that something is about to happen, and that it will happen in the Spring of 2019. The second attack of Rome will begin, and this time it’s in serious and this time it’s going to involve legislation, destruction, and it’s going to involve the loss of life.”

It didn’t happen.

It is false prophecy.

Ellen White wrote in the 1888 Materials: “The times and the seasons God has put in his own power, and why
has not God given us this knowledge?–Because we would not make a right use of it if he did. A condition of things would result from this knowledge among our people that would greatly retard the work of God in preparing a people to stand in the great day that is to come. We are not to live upon time excitement. We are not to be engrossed with speculations in regard to the times and the seasons which God has not revealed. Jesus has told his disciples to “watch,” but not for definite time.”

I made a video refuting Pr. Gates’ prophecies, and strangely, many of the commenters were denouncing me as being asleep, just drifting with the world, and a false judge of Pr. Gates. Look, I understand the desire to see SOMETHING happen, and to see God’s power and of course Jesus’ coming. But how is supporting false prophecies going to do that? Instead, won’t they “greatly retard the work of God” just as the Holy Spirit told us thru Ellen White? Was Ellen White mistaken? Just because a pastor is trying to wake people up, doesn’t mean he is speaking the truth. Satan is more pleased with fanatic holders of error than he is with sleepy Laodiceans, as the fanatics can keep out some of those who are sincerely looking for truth, and make them disgusted with the failed prophecies and those who support them.

Tomorrow is the start of Summer 2019. Pastor David Gates’ prophecies failed. Let’s flee all failed prophecies, and immerse ourselves in the words of God so that we too don’t get carried away in the current of error and miss out on our glorious heavenly home that Jesus is preparing for all those who are faithful unto the end.

Stephen Bohr and Secrets Unsealed plan to break Sabbath at Tenaya Lodge again

Stephen Bohr and Secrets Unsealed advocate breaking the Sabbath for evangelism purposes.

I’ve held off on writing this post for a long time, knowing that Pastor Stephen Bohr has done much good, but as it seems that this grievous error is going to be advocated again this year (2019), it may be my duty to sound the alarm so that others don’t dishonor God’s holy, 7th day Sabbath with them.

In 2018, Secrets Unsealed had their 10th annual summit at Tenaya Lodge, near Yosemite National Park, California, from October 25-28. I looked on the calendar, and sure enough, it included one 7th day Sabbath. Now I know it is possible to arrange with hotel/catering staff in advance to have them prepare some food on Friday evening in bags, and those interested can pick them up then, and then have the next served meal on Sunday morning. That was done at one camp meeting I went to in Germany in 2006. It worked pretty well, with those wanting more bringing something they bought themselves to eat over the Sabbath hours. It was quite a witness to the workers also, and if I remember right, one or two of them even showed up on Sabbath morning just to see if we needed them, and they hung around a while and even listened in on some of the meetings. 🙂

But Secrets Unsealed had the lodge staff prepare them meals on the Sabbath. I was quite flabbergasted to see this, as I had a lot of respect for Pr. Bohr and his group at least trying to observe “the old paths”. This brazen breaking of the Sabbath commandment:
“Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.” Exodus 20:8-11
seemed to me to be an oversight. I remember when advising the people doing one of the first GYC-type meetings in India, that we shouldn’t have them serve us on the Sabbath, and most of them seemed shocked that they hadn’t even considered it, and agreed, and eventually had a self-serve type of dining on the Sabbath (but some of the “top” people didn’t see any problem with making others work for them on the Sabbath).

Surely a pastor as strong as Pastor Bohr would see the problem with it, wouldn’t he? I sent a email voicing my concerns especially regarding the “catering appreciation” event they were planning for the Sabbath day itself! Their reply was: “Yes, this is the time we give thank them and gift them books, like Steps to Christ, The Great Controversy and also a message on DVD or mini series. ”

Hmmmm, so if we break the Sabbath to make the stranger within our gates feed us, it is OK because we give them a Spirit of Prophecy book! Really?!

I sent them this email: “Incredible!
Let’s force others to break the Sabbath,
so we can witness to them!!!

Jesus said something about hypocrites.
Do you remember what it was?
Pr. Bohr and all those associated with this conference still have opportunity to turn from their wicked plans and present Jesus correctly.

Please repent, and follow Jesus.
Daniel Winters”

It seems that my concerns were brought up in an in-house meeting they had, and they sent this long reply:
“Thank you for your comments. We have given ‘Sabbath meals’ much prayerful consideration. Permit me to share the following with you.

Sabbath Meals

Sabbath is a day of celebration and fasting on the Sabbath does not add to the joy and fellowship, which is one of the important reasons for holding convocations.
We do not go out to eat on Sabbath as families because we have the opportunity to prepare for our families before Sabbath. Nevertheless, someone still heats the food and serves it even if everyone helps.

In many large cities, members get to church by bus or train. While they may buy their tickets on Friday, they do not control the subway or its employees. Nevertheless, they go to church.

In our own institutions such as camps and academies, we serve food on Sabbath. The difference is that a lot of work is done on Friday so that the kitchen staff can attend church and enjoy the Sabbath as much as possible. However, we do not have that control here (i.e., at Tenaya).

We live in a secular world that does not live by our principles. We apply Biblical principles where we have control, but cannot control the world around us.

We also use electricity on Sabbath. Why? Because it is available and needed in many ways. Nevertheless, we do not control the electric companies or their employees. Same with the phone.

In order to hold a convention like this we do not have a choice, if we are going to have a convention, except to hold it where lodging and meals are provided.

We practice the principle of Sabbath preparation to the extent we can, given the fact that we do not own or administer their facility (i.e., Tenaya Lodge).

The hotel is not a “stranger within our gate”. We are their guests and we have no power over their employees or running their kitchen. If we did, then everything would be prepared ahead of time etc. However, we are the stranger in their gate and are dependent on them for food if we rent their facility.

In conclusion, Secrets Unsealed will continue to do everything it can to preserve the holiness of the Sabbath where it has the power to do so, and do everything we can to promote the gospel and the three angels messages the best we can.

Over the years, we have established a relationship with the staff at Tenaya. Every year we provide them staff with a gift. Last year we gave each one their very own Bible. One guy had tears in his eyes…he didn’t have a Bible and wanted one. Now he cherishes it because if came from us. Other years, we have gifted them with a study on the state of the dead, the Desire of Ages, and Steps to Christ just to name a few. We have built a relationship with the staff, and they trust and treasure what we give them. This year we gave them a study on end time events. A complete Matthew 24 audio series since most employees commute to work. Bringing Christ to these people is something we would not be able to do if we were not there.

Hope this gives you a clearer understanding. Our conscience is clear with regards to our annual conference. Nevertheless, we respect your choice not to attend.”

This reply shows that their conscience is bothering them, as they directly address the “stranger within our gate” problem. They make it sound like the people are going to work and prepare food anyway, so they are not employing them (even tho it is evident they are). They also try to make it sound fine by making the false equivalence that since we turn on the lights on the Sabbath, it is OK for them to hire people to serve them food on the Sabbath – which is a classic example of the “I’m going to break God’s law to serve my belly, no matter what” rebellion which I’ve seen many fellow SDAs do in my lifetime.

Secrets Unsealed is planning to do the same thing this year, from October 31st to November 3rd, at the same location. Scheduled speakers are: “Stephen Bohr, Vicki Griffin, Norman McNulty, Kameron DeVasher and Eliezer Castaon”. From their PR email: “Some of the Benefits of Attending each year are . . .
Profound study of God’s word
Prophetic topics
Relevant for end-time preparation
Become grounded in Biblical Truth
Challenge your commitment to a daily deeper study
Variety of speakers
Q & A Sessions after each lecture
Time for prayer and singing
Strengthen your commitment to serving the Lord
Life changing, and spiritually enriching weekend
Health life changing lectures
Uplifting music
Great fellowship
Nature walks
Delicious meals
Resources you can trust in the exhibit hall”

And one more benefit I can think of: You can get hands-on experience in how to be a hypocrite by making others break God’s 7th day Sabbath, with a full belly thanks to their working for you on the Sabbath day.

Please stay away from this event, and call on Secrets Unsealed staff and Pr. Stephen Bohr to repent of this grievous sin.

The Gospels are an “unbalanced doctrine” according to pope Francis

Breitbart News recently published that the pope said the Gospels are “imbalanced”, and that “imbalance” is good!:
Christians must embrace the “imbalance” of the gospel rather than trying to put everything in order, Pope Francis said Thursday, which leads to a “dictatorship of functionalism.”

It is an error to try to “fix” things and impose order on the world or the Church, the pope told participants in a diocesan assembly in Rome, adding that it is a “temptation” to think we can “reorganize the city, reorganize the diocese, put everything in order.”

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/05/10/pope-francis-clericalism-began-with-apostles/

Having everything in order converts the Church into a “museum,” Francis said, which would mean “taming things, taming young people, taming people’s hearts, taming families” and making everything “perfect.”

“But this would be the greatest sin of worldliness and of the anti-evangelical worldly spirit,” he said.

“We have heard about the imbalances of the city, the imbalance of young people, the elderly, families … The imbalance of relations with children,” the pope said. “Today we have been called to embrace the imbalance.”

“We cannot do anything good or evangelical if we are afraid of imbalance,” he said. “We must grasp the imbalance in our hands: this is what the Lord tells us, because the Gospel — I believe you understand me — is an ‘unbalanced’ doctrine. Take the Beatitudes: they deserve the Nobel Prize for imbalance!”

The apostles did not get this, Francis suggested, because they had fallen into the clericalism of right thinking and a desire for order and balance.

Adventists can’t bring themselves to identify “Islam” as source of Sri Lankan attacks

On Easter, April 21 2019, there were several horrific bombings targeting churches in Sri Lanka. As of this writing, 321 people were murdered.

Who were they murdered by? Of course, it was by Muslim jihadists who believe in their “holy” book, the Qur’an, that commands them to “fight until all is for Allah”.

So what has this got to do with the Seventh-day Adventist Church? Well, just a few weeks ago, and white man who openly stated that Communist China was his inspiration, shot up a mosque in New Zealand, killing 49 people. The world Church was swift in denouncing the attack of terror, and gushed in several articles about how SDA leaders were reaching out to the Muslim community, praying with them, showing them love, helping them, condemning the hatred of the attacker etc. There were at least 4 articles like this in the Adventist Review.

So you would expect a similar or greater response when terror attacks are carried out on fellow Christians, wouldn’t you? Well, as of this date, there are only 2 articles about it, one a short statement from Ted Wilson where he doesn’t even mention the word “Christian”, and an article about the Sri Lankan SDA president who narrowly missed being near a hotel where some bombs went off.

The latter article is especially revolting, not mentioning “Christian” at all either, like Ted Wilson’s statement, but also pointedly refusing to mention Islam or Muslim, stating instead: “While one group has claimed responsibility for the blasts but without evidence to support the claim…” Adventist Review hates word “Islam”

Appeasement, and pretending there isn’t a problem is what led to Hitler’s rise.
Blood is on your hands, SDA Church.
Repent, and follow Jesus!
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edited to add: Seems the Hindustan Times has no problem pointing out who did the attacks in this article: “India sent three alerts to Sri Lanka before Easter Sunday attack”.

HT spoke to multiple officials in the central intelligence agencies who confirmed that the videos of Hashim, in which he exhorted Muslim youth from Sri Lanka, Tamil Nadu and Kerala to establish an Islamic rule in the region, were analysed in detail and investigated further by India’s external spy agency R&AW (Research and Analysis Wing)

Attacks were to teach non-sharia followers a lesson

That’s pretty bad when Hindus are more open and truthful about things than Seventh-day Adventist Christians!
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edited again: I can’t believe the Adventist Review approved this comment of mine regarding mentioning Muslims as the attackers!! “Why can’t we tell the truth about these terror attacks being the work of Muslims?”

Seventh-day Adventist pastors promote abortion

This is awful. Seventh-day Adventist pastors are in the list of denominations that have pastors who signed a document asking Tennessee’s governor to oppose legislation that would make it illegal to kill an innocent, developing human that has a heartbeat.

“A group of some 150 Tennessee faith leaders, many of them Christian, have sent a letter to Governor Bill Lee urging him to oppose heartbeat legislation.
In the letter, the religious leaders declare their opposition to the heartbeat bill as well as “all attempts to criminalize and restrict abortion access.”

Such a law would make legislators into the decision-makers, rather than medical professionals and “pregnant people,” the letter states.

The letter was signed by pastors and other religious leaders and activists, including Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Unitarian Universalists, and a pagan priestess. Among the Christians, the Methodist, Presbyterian, Baptist, Lutheran, United Church of Christ, African Methodist Episcopal, Catholic, Episcopal, Brethren, Seventh Day Adventist, Anglican, and Nazarene were represented among the signatories.”

SDA pastors petition government to kill more babies

Anyone who still gives tithe to the General Conference, knowing that they support killing Jesus in the person of “the least of these my brethren”, is going to have a lot of explaining to do to Jesus in the judgment.

REPENT NOW!

March for Life 2019 – no Adventists?

So nice to see so many people marching for the rights of innocent, developing humans in Washington D.C.

The theme this year is: “Unique from Day One: Pro-Life is Pro-Science.”
Humans unique from day one after conception

The pics of the people show decent, reasonable-looking people, not the half-mad, vulgar, pierced, tattooed rebellious bunch that you usually see at Progressive marches.

But where are the Seventh-day Adventists? Why didn’t NAD or the General Conference come out with a communique announcing their solidarity with this group trying to raise awareness that thousands of baby’s lives are being snuffed out every day, and calling on a stop to it? Why does the GC and NAD have heart to condemn every shooting of 10 or 20 people, yet are totally silent on killing of thousands – EVERY DAY??? Hypocrites.

So who fills the void of God’s remnant church shirking its responsibility of protecting “the least of these my brethren”? Of course – the Roman Catholic Church: Catholics seen as moral leaders

We Adventists are going to be spewed out soon if we don’t repent, and follow Jesus, instead of supporting the killing of him thousands of times over every day.

SDA President Ted Wilson’s comment on no Sunday Law “in the pipeline”

Recently quite a few fellow Seventh-day Adventists are calling President Ted Wilson a “Jesuit” for saying that there is no Sunday Law “in the pipeline”. This especially got traction from Amazing Word Ministries’ Pr. Nougaisse’s videos here: https://youtu.be/wHTJ77H0xVY
https://youtu.be/zhHCDhYiaOk
and End-Time Prophecies’ video: https://youtu.be/e8jTMWFhxCA

It sounds incredible, so I decided to check out the actual words that Pr. Wilson said. You can find the video here: https://youtu.be/npS4N6WV_XU

Here is the full video contents of Ted Wilson’s comments regarding the “pipeline” question.
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“The question has surfaced from time to time as to whether or not there is some connection between the General Conference and its involvement with Sunday laws and that kind of thing. Also strange rumors that have been floating around in the internet for a number of years actually that the Pope has contacted the United States president who has contacted the General Conference president about national Sunday laws and all of this.”

“I want to tell you that this is absolutely incorrect, totally false. Somebody somewhere imagines certain things and puts it on the internet and then people believe what they read.”

“I want to encourage all of you to go back to the Word of God. Go back to the Spirit of prophecy. Read the beautiful chapters in The Great Controversy. Understand that yes, National Sunday laws will come. Persecution will come. But nothing of that sort is in the pipeline at the present time, nothing that we have understood. The Seventh-day Adventist Church is a strong proponent of religious liberty and freedom of conscience. We believe in religious liberty for all people. One of these days though, that Liberty will be taken away from us. But until that time, let’s use the time to spread the good news.

Don’t spread rumors. Don’t spread inaccurate information. Spread the truth. The Holy Spirit will help you to do that. God bless each one of you. And don’t be afraid for the future. Put yourself in God’s hands, and he will protect you even through the most difficult times. Thank you for your witness for the Lord. God bless you. Maranatha.”
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While I disagree very strongly with Pr. Wilson on his support for abortion, and don’t even consider him my brother in Christ over his support for killing Christ in the womb, he is exactly right on this issue. I call on all those trying to paint him in a bad light on the Sunday Law issue for this “in the pipeline” issue to repent, and ask for God to heal your itching ears.

Pastor Branner also teaches time-setting, contrary to God’s words

Pastor Branner is a SDA pastor referenced by David Gates in his “Even at the Door” sermon. I watched the 2 part series by Pr. Branner, titled “Prophecy Science and the New World Order”.
He says many good things, and I generally am in agreement with what he says. Especially I’m delighted to see he takes the words of God in the Bible to heart – that there will be a literal 3 1/2 year period right before the end.

However, he makes several unfortunate time-setting errors that may turn off some honest seekers for truth. Here were some thots about his part 2 video sermon:
50:10 “The close of probation for God’s people will be within one year”. That’s some time-setting.
52:05 “Wouldn’t God let us know when the judgment of the dead goes to the judgment of the living”? Yes, that will be when the 10 Commandments are brought forth.
1:09:44 He says that the Pope is coming with a Sunday Law, but that’s not according to what Ellen White has written. She writes that after God’s judgments (fireballs etc) people will clamor for a way to get right with God, and the apostate Protestants in America will call for a Sunday Law. The Roman Catholic Church will make sure to do it in Europe and perhaps more, but not in America.

Let’s study to show ourselves approved unto God.

David Read of Fulcrum7 doesn’t believe in words of God

Recently, there was an article on Fulcrum7 by Eugene Prewitt where he quoted Deuteronomy 6:6 that says “these words” in referring to what is in the Bible, and he also wrote: “They should be hearing and thinking of God’s words continuously.” Since this is exactly what I believe, and that he has said before that he doesn’t believe, I asked him if he does believe this now that the words in the Bible are from God. He gave a very strange reply:

“The Ten Commandments are referred to in Scripture as Ten Words. And as they were written with the finger of God I most certainly believe that these Ten Words are, in fact, God’s “words” even in the modern sense of words. But in the Biblical sense, a “word” is often an idea (like in the phrase, “May I have a word with you?” And so I do believe that the whole Bible is the words of God though the vocabulary reflects the language skill and habits of the various prophets who were God’s penmen, albeit not his pen. But I have a hard time imagining that you ask in good faith since we have discussed this to ad nasium in the past. I risk my life on the reliability and authority of Scripture. There is not an idea in Scripture to which I do not bow.”

So he believes that the whole Bible “is the words of God”, but, …… he bows to only ideas in Scripture??? That’s just WEIRD.

I told him that he was welcome to believe whatever he wanted, but when writing that he believes the “words of God”, when he does NOT believe the words are from God, is being self-contradictory.

At this point, David Read jumped into to the discussion to show his double-speaking on the issue as well. “Single issue posters are tiresome, and in your case wrong. If you keep agitating verbal inspiration, your posts will be deleted.”

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earlysda
I have never advocated verbal inspiration.
I believe the words in the Bible are God’s words.
The author of this article quotes “God’s words” as if he believes in them too, yet says in later posts that he only believes the ideas in the Bible.

Stephen Bohr says Adam didn’t keep first Sabbath!

Pastor Stephen Bohr (Secrets Unsealed) is usually firm for the truth, altho I have never cared for his long-winded style and for refusing to condemn sins such as abortion in the Seventh-day Adventist Church. So it is with great surprise that I read today where he says:

Now we are ready to answer fully
the question of why God did not
command Adam and Eve to cease
on the seventh day of creation week:
First, as previously indicated,
Adam and Eve could not
cease from work on the seventh day
because they had not worked the first
six. How could they cease from work
if they had not worked?

I blinked, not believing my eyes. Surely he was leading up to an important point that Adam really did keep the first Sabbath, but then he doubled down by saying:

Third, Jesus could not have told
Adam and Eve to keep
the Sabbath of creation week holy
because He did not make it holy
until He had finished resting the
entire seventh day.

Huh?

Then:

Adam and Eve could not
follow God’s example of
Sabbath observance until He had
first given the example. In other
words, Jesus did not merely tell
Adam and Eve to keep it holy but
rather showed them how to keep it!

This is preposterous. Saying that Adam and Eve “Could not follow God’s example of of Sabbath observance” is tantamount to saying that Adam and Eve broke the very first Sabbath. Like what were they doing, Pr. Bohr? Were they wandering around all over the place doing their own pleasure while Jesus was resting?

Pr. Bohr came out with this article Reflections on a Sabbath debate in which he tries to refute the points made by Steve Gregg in his debate about the Sabbath with Doug Batchelor. But by saying that Adam did not keep the first Sabbath, he has basically shot down his position that the Sabbath is for all humans everywhere from the beginning to the end of this earth’s history.

Stephen Bohr, please don’t barge into debates where your input causes more harm to God’s cause than help.