With summer 2019 just a day away now, it is time again to call on Pastor David Gates, and those who believed him, to repent of disobeying God’s words, and to repent for lying and believing lies, and to come back to the faith of our forefathers in the Three Angels’ Messages.
Last year, probably the second biggest ripple in the Adventist pond (after church entities rebelling against General Conference authority on the women’s ordination issue) was Pr. Gates’ video sermon “Even at the Doors”. That video on his channel alone got over a 1/4 million views, and probably nearly the same amount on other peoples’ channels who copied it. And this is just on Youtube, no doubt more on other venues. It caused such a bruha, that Pastor Mark Finley, special assistant to President Ted Wilson, made a video just to refute it. And that video got over 100,000 views on Youtube, showing how much interest there was in this issue.
Now Pr. Gates has made outlandish predictions before, especially after he was spectacularly right on the financial crisis of September 2008. He said America was “bankrupt”, that it “owned nothing”, that the banks “have no cash”, that “the dollar is worthless”, that “gas prices can only go up” etc. etc. He based that on the 7 fat years of Pharoah’s dream happening again for some reason on September 11, 2001. Why he believed that Pharaoh’s dream has another fulfillment, and why a terrorist attack would be signal to start that fulfillment, is a huge mystery. Anyway, that would have made the “fat” years end in the fall of 2008. So 2 years after the 7 lean years got started in 2008, supposedly the money was going to be worthless in the fall of 2010. Of course in the background of his sermons at that time, was that 2015 was going to be……… Well, of course that all went and left and passed away, and the economy grew much stronger, America grew much richer, the dollar went up, and gas prices went down. He seemed to be contrite, and his sermons after that fiasco were much more Christ-centered. I didn’t hear any more predictions from him after that until this “Even at the Doors” prediction-filled sermon in 2018.
His basis for this prediction, was that the pope gave a speech to Congress in the capital of America – Washington D.C. in 2015, supposedly on the Day of Atonement for that year (Sep 23), (but actually he got the day wrong – it was Oct 23). He imagined that something about the pope giving a speech in the Capital building fulfilled Daniel’s “Abomination of Desolation” prophecy, which Jesus said we should study. Of course there was no in-depth study showing how this fulfilled any of that prophecy, but it sounded plausible to surface students of the Holy Bible, and they ran with it. Three and half years after that would land exactly on March 23 2019, but showing sloppy studying of the prophecies again, he just said that the prophecy would be fulfilled in “Spring 2019”.
Specifically, he showed on the screen of his sermon video at 42:10 that Rome would attack America in Spring 2019, and that the SDA Church would start persecuting members in Spring 2019. At 43:42 he says clearly: “It is my conviction that something is about to happen, and that it will happen in the Spring of 2019. The second attack of Rome will begin, and this time it’s in serious and this time it’s going to involve legislation, destruction, and it’s going to involve the loss of life.”
It didn’t happen.
It is false prophecy.
Ellen White wrote in the 1888 Materials: “The times and the seasons God has put in his own power, and why
has not God given us this knowledge?–Because we would not make a right use of it if he did. A condition of things would result from this knowledge among our people that would greatly retard the work of God in preparing a people to stand in the great day that is to come. We are not to live upon time excitement. We are not to be engrossed with speculations in regard to the times and the seasons which God has not revealed. Jesus has told his disciples to “watch,” but not for definite time.”
I made a video refuting Pr. Gates’ prophecies, and strangely, many of the commenters were denouncing me as being asleep, just drifting with the world, and a false judge of Pr. Gates. Look, I understand the desire to see SOMETHING happen, and to see God’s power and of course Jesus’ coming. But how is supporting false prophecies going to do that? Instead, won’t they “greatly retard the work of God” just as the Holy Spirit told us thru Ellen White? Was Ellen White mistaken? Just because a pastor is trying to wake people up, doesn’t mean he is speaking the truth. Satan is more pleased with fanatic holders of error than he is with sleepy Laodiceans, as the fanatics can keep out some of those who are sincerely looking for truth, and make them disgusted with the failed prophecies and those who support them.
Tomorrow is the start of Summer 2019. Pastor David Gates’ prophecies failed. Let’s flee all failed prophecies, and immerse ourselves in the words of God so that we too don’t get carried away in the current of error and miss out on our glorious heavenly home that Jesus is preparing for all those who are faithful unto the end.
17 thoughts on “Pastor David Gates’ failed prophecy”
” Because we would not make a right use of it if he did. A condition of things would result from this knowledge among our people that would greatly retard the work of God in preparing a people to stand in the great day that is to come. ” — This is definitely a profound statement regarding where our attention needs to be.
I pray that David Gates and others find this post and give heed to what God has revealed to Ellen White.
I came across this blog post today as someone put a short video on Telegram yesterday of Pstr David Gates telling of a lockdown in Britain July 15th so I wanted to research who was giving this prediction….I have no affiliation to SDA although I’ve read “The Great Controversy” and agreed as a Bible believer with a lot of what was written. But I will comment that this brave man may not be right with the timeline (as many of old in Ellen White’s book revealed pertaining to Jesus’ 2nd coming!) This prophecy ” He said America was “bankrupt”, that it “owned nothing”, that the banks “have no cash”, that “the dollar is worthless”, that “gas prices can only go up” etc. etc.” is spot on now and people need to heed God now as never before in my opinion…thank you
I too found this after researching David after viewing his speech on what is happening around the world and the New World Order. He is right on the mark and the world needs to wake up and see the evil doers for what they are and what they are doing to the world population. This is a spiritual war as well as a biological one of poisons that are being pushed into humans and changing their human body DNA. The NWO is also taking away our God-given rights to freedoms. He is a brave man to speak up against evil ones.
I don’t know many details of this chap. I scrolled through this article. Please note that the WHO declared the plandemic on 22 March 2019. Pharmekia!
Wondering if you still feel this way considering a year later to the literal day everything changed…and it looks like the pastor was right
You are correct that he misinterpreted his own prophesy, but what he said actually did happen. The Roman empire upon collapse moved all the wealth to the Western Island known as the edge of the world (England). The funding of bioresearch is linked to the old Roman money in the world bank of Federal Reserve. The release of Covid-19 coupled with the reaction put America on a full military like lockdown. The attack has made America falter as a Superpower and our military actions since has been abysmal at this point. Russia and China look to step into the new found void.
Razadime, your many statements have nothing at all to do with the Pastor Gates’ sermon or this blog post you are responding to.
Joe J, Yes, I’m even more sure in August 2022 that Pastor Gates was wildly incorrect than when I first wrote this blog post 3 years ago. Nothing he said has come to pass.
Glorz, you do realize that nothing that David Gates said would happen in his “Even at the Doors” sermon actually happened, don’t you?
I’m responding only to the comments that nothing happened in 2015 or 2019.
I was called by God in 1994 to publish with Amos 3:7,8 three times. He led me to research on the plans for the new world religion and I began warning the church about the plans to bring in Sunday legislation under the green climate agenda in World Watch, Towards Eternity, Signs of the Times and News Decoded. I warned of this agenda at our nations first Sabbatarian Convention in 1996.
Reporting on what the stealthy sneaking enemy is doing proves to be very difficult as the enemy tries very hard to evade detection and is dificult to pin down as he rarely does what he says he will do because he is a liar. HE is the liar.
Pr David Gates; a mighty man of God and of great faith and a watchman was highlighting what he saw of the signs of the times for SDA’s are called to be watchmen and lightbearers. It should provoke every SDA to study for themselves and not rely on any man, Pr Gates or the President.
I believe Pr Gates has been proven to be correct in expecting something significant to happen in 2015 and 2019. And I have a website that proves that it did.
Something DID happen in 2015. In fact a LOT of things happened in 2015 when the final superharvest blood moon of the astronomically rare tetrad of blood moons occurring on the feast days in 2014 and 2015 climaxed while the Pope was in the US. A SUPER HARVEST BLOOD MOON.
Pope Francis from Rome came to the land originally owned by Francis Pope in the land known as Rome, now called Washington, in an occult mirror ritual. He presented the new ecotheology of the new world religion developed by one of the most prominent Jesuits, Pierre Teilhard De Chardin in The Laudato Si encyclical building on former encyclicals such as Dies Domini that calls for Sunday legslation that is leading the charge for the new world order and economy to all be reshaped accordingly.
Laudato Si also calls for Sunday recognition. He presented it to the US Congress for the first time ever that a Pope has been to the US congress. It was embraced by them. He presented it to the UN’s 70th anniversary. It was embraced there also.
So the US and UN accepted the New World Religion referenced in the Pope’s encyclical, that has a replacement ten commandments. With an Earth Sabbath a Green Sunday. That all world religions have embraced at the WPA.
And Revelation says that he will cause the EARTH to worship the first beast.
And you say nothing happened? In fact most of SDA thinks NOTHING happened?!
This was the SIGN for SDA’s to FLEE the cities and go to the mountains, to the country, to the wilderness. This was the start of the fulfilment of Micah 4:1 and Is 2:1 that God’s kingdom will be relocated to the mountains.
Then Something DID happen in the spring of 2019.
On or about the 8th of March 2019.
The Pope said that 3 and 1/2 years had passed and called on all religious leaders to call for an Ecological Conversion which the RNS said in Laudato Si vs the Green New Deal of which Sunday legislation is the goal. An Ecological Conversion is a conversion to the new world religion which is expressed as below. In other words, a ramping up of the movement to push the new world reliigon.
NOW the world must CONVERT to the eco theology. All religious leaders must push it.
The World Parliament of Religions has already agreed to the Earth Covenant designed by Maurice Strong to be designed to replace the TEN commandments. The WPA have acknowledged The Earth Covenant which has an ARK of the Covenant being taken to nations all over the world for signing that has an Environmental Sabbath Earth Rest Day that has a Green Sunday spawned from it. Where this whole climate agenda is heading.
(The solution to the climate crisis being ‘depopulation’ and destruction of civilisation and return to pagan rituals and tribalism, all announced around the UN Climate Conference in September 2019, and the Amazonian Conference in October, all designed to encase the critical endeavour to enforce the mark of authority and entrance to the initiation into the new pagan satanic world religion on the Roman Soldiers god the LION SUN’s day of rest; Sunday)
Now 1290 days from the date of this Ecological Conversion call, the Climate King Charles III who was a founder of the World Economic Forum that plans to impose the GREAT RESET on humaniy very shortly, takes the world stage when his mother, Queen Elisabeth II is laid to rest. On the 18.9.2022. Which is both a 666 and 911 date.
18 = 6 x 3 or 666. 9 11 11 11. 911 x 3.
( I just heard evidence (encourage everyone to check it out as I haven’t verified it yet) that Prince Charles of Wales his former title in both Hebrew and English gematria apparently adds up to 666 and when he was crowned Prince Charles of Wales by his mother, she quoted Revelation 13:2 to him, as he sat on a throne with a picture of a red dragon on it, and said, and the dragon gives you your crown, your seat and your great authority. Now is it possible that he has been set up to be a prominent public antichrist figure?)
And 1335 days later on the 2nd of November 2022, is around the start of the final autumn feasts of 2022. Still day unknown until the sighting of the new moon of the 7th month. The UN COP 27 conference prepares to begin on the 6th Nov in Egypt at Mt Sinai where the world’s religious leaders will ascend the (false) Mt Sinai and proclaim a new (Baal’s morals)Universal ECO 10 commandments on the 13th of November 2022. Thats after the final blood moon in the second tetrad, falls on the US election date of 8th of November.
So the event of 2015 was the SIGN of the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place.
It mirrored the event of Tabernacles 66ad when the roman soldiers under Cestius surrounded Jerusalem attacked the watchtower, planted their standard of the roman soldiers god, the LION SUN, and withdrew.
In 2015 the roman soldiers (Jesuits) under Bergoglio surrounded the Cities of peace (the world = meaning of Jerusalem) and attacked the watchtower – attack on the watchmen, 200 + websites shut down, and planted the Lion sun worship in Laudato Si and then withdrew. EGW says Jerusalem is the world in this prophecy, see GC chapter 1 that is repeating in this experience.
35 & 1/2 years earlier, in 30 or 31 ad Jesus was crucified and rejected by His people in nothing less than his identity. Because he called himself the Son of God.
Did this repeat also?
35.5 years earlier from Tabernacles 2015 was Passover 1980 (on the Karaite calendar)
when the SDA church also rejected Jesus identity as the Son of God and chose the babylonian El Bar instead, God the Son, and voted out the Son of God in the new fundamental beliefs based on the Catholic Trinity on which all the foundation of their beliefs are built. Enabling the SDA church to join the WCC as they now met the criteria of the trinity belief.
At this time, Alberto Riviera, Jesuit whistleblower said, in 1980 the signal was given world wide in the US President facing the obelisk at inauguration to indicate that all the christian denominations were taken over and infiltrated compltely. A recrucifixion event occured. The same as 31ad.
So 35 and 1/2 years later, the event in T 2015 was heralded in the Heavens by a GREAT SIGN, a TETRAD of blood moons falling on the feast days, in the MIDST of the PERFECT SIGN of blood moons in the alignment of a great X. A X is the last letter of the Hebrew alephbeit called TAV.
It is also the 22nd letter, and equates to the last Greek letter we know as Omega. The TAV means MARK or SIGN. So God HIMSELF was indicating in the heavens in MORSE CODE that this was the MARK, the SIGN of his coming and the end of the world that His disciples enquired about.
In 2019 the Sea beast made the announcements. In 2020 the Earth Beast enacted them in the covid-19 pandemic state of emergency that empowered FEMA the agency with the emergency plans for concentration camps and other horrors. The seige began and the attack was launched with the slaughter weapon, the DNA altering untested operation warpspeed injections, with no ingredient list that reserachers have now discovered is in fact a bioweapon designed to injure harm robotise and kill those who take it. The real ingredients are a horror show.
The reason why God’s people needed by now to be living in the country, growing their own food, and supporting and helping all who have come under this hideous attack.
All just an amazing coincidence of course?
No – Palmoni the perfect numberer is at work, and only the wise will understand.
Please share around Adventism.
Jannene, contrary to your assertions, you do realize that nothing that David Gates said would happen in his “Even at the Doors” sermon actually happened, don’t you?
Even if what he said did come to pass at the exact time he said, that would STILL make him a false prophet! Why? Because Ellen White says no one is to set a date for anything in the future. The reason is, when the date comes and goes and the predicted event didn’t happen (like in this case with David Gates), some peoples’ faith would be overthrown, and those not of our faith would feel more confident that we are not following the true God if what we say will happen doesn’t. And even if it does, the Three Angels’ Messages will NOT be based on time. They are stronger than time. After 1844, there will be no more messages based on time – period.
I see you are far removed from Seventh-day Adventist beliefs by your occultic talk about Palmoni, tetrads, 22nd letters, and your disbelief in the Holy Spirit as a person. If you don’t believe in the Holy Spirit, there is no way you can be blessed by him.
So right now, Satan is leading you down the paths of speculation and disbelief to your own destruction. I call on you to repent, and come back to faith in the Three Angels’ Messages, and going out into all the world to do as Jesus said and baptize people in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
It is very sad to see this conversation. According to what the apostle John tells us, the purpose of prophecy isNOT to produce arguments or worry about what could happen, but Faith in God’s Word after we see the fulfillment (John ch. 13, 14). But look at all this energy spent in human opinions and interpretations, not to talk on the politics of who is right or who is wrong. I’m sure Satan is enjoying this very much.
Anybody heard of Greg Lang and his books? David Gates follows him actually and teaches what he writes.
@JANNENE: You’ve definitely got many beliefs that are completely foreign & unheard of among Adventists!
@DANIEL: When did Adventists begin to consider the Holy Spirit to be a “person”? How did I miss that?
I am very skeptical of this notion! All of my SDA education taught me that the Holy Spirit is inherently non-physical and non-localized (has no physical form or body); to me clearly means the Holy Spirit can not be a person. Perhaps our definitions of “person” are wildly divergent?
@ANY/EVERY SDA: Are we really still clinging to a belief in a “Sunday law”? I haven’t heard anything about that in quite some time.
It really is not even remotely feasible that there are going to be any “Sunday laws” passed anywhere. How would that even work? The vast majority of the population in every “Christian” country are Christians in name only at best; this could never be enforced. Such a policy has never been the agenda of any politicians or rulers in any country. What purpose/function would it even serve? Sunday Laws are not at all the direction that any movement or ideology is moving towards: virtually everyone & everything on earth is turning away from religion, Christianity in particular—certainly politically!
If anything, we could certainly see “Friday laws” in a number of Muslim nations. But Sunday laws just are not something that is going to happen.
I’ve read your article and agree that predictions didn’t come true at the right time.
But now pastor David Gates and prof Walter Veith seem to agree that the year 2027 might be the year of the end. I studied this subject for some time and agree with them.
Could you read the below and share your thoughts, please, or even better write a new article on this subject?
Evidence that the time around the year 2027 might be the time of the end, based on the Cosmic Week theory (6000 years of world’s history under sin), Daniel 12 (three long prophetic time periods), the last Jubilee year, the last Sabbatical year, and the Spirit of Prophecy:
Jannene (now Jolene) Yes, we Seventh-day Adventists believe the Holy Spirit is a person. This is a quote from Ellen White, found in Ms21 1906:
“The Comforter that Christ promised to send after He ascended to heaven, is the Spirit in all the fulness of the Godhead, making manifest the power of divine grace to all who receive and believe in Christ as a personal Saviour. There are three living persons of the heavenly trio; in the name of these three great powers—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will co-operate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the new life in Christ.”
Jolene, it is wicked that you attempt to refute God who said thru Ellen White many, many, many times that there definitely WILL be a Sunday Law. Even many non-SDAs know that we believe this.
This is from the original, 1858 Great Controversy book by Ellen White:
“I saw the saints leaving the cities and villages, and associating in companies together, and living in the most solitary places. Angels provided them food and water; but the wicked were suffering with hunger and thirst. Then I saw the leading men of earth consulting together, and Satan and his angels were busy around them. I saw a writing, and copies of it scattered in different parts of the land, giving orders, that unless the saints should yield their peculiar faith, give up the Sabbath, and observe the first day, they were at liberty, after such a time, to put them to death. But in this time the saints were calm and composed, trusting in God, and leaning upon his promise, that a way of escape would be made for them. In some places, before the time for the writing to be executed, ”
Jolene, you are currently in the occult, being led by Satan, and far removed from God. I beg of you to humble yourself, repent, and call on God to send his Holy Spirit to guide you and comfort you and lead you to the only begotten Son – Jesus Christ.
Slawomir, thank you for your comment. I’ve read a little of the page you kindly referenced. While there are some good, biblical things mentioned, there is some “force-fitting” as there inevitably is in every time prophecy. The most noticeable one is the supposed start of the Abomination of Desolation in 692AD. This is not possible at all. The announcement of the pandemic by WHO in 2020 is supposedly the start of the last 7 years, which again, is very mistaken, and has no relation to the subject at hand. The jubilee cycles seeming to culminate in 2027 is the strongest point in support of this theory.
However, we are NOT to do any time setting, period. All time setting for any event after 1844 is NOT led of God. Since it is not led of God, it is something we should be shunning, not getting involved with, and actually exposing those who do this time setting, because it is all contrary to the revealed will of God.
Let’s pray for Br. Gates and Veith that they will repent, and return to being strong voices for the Remnant, to help them give the Loud Cry with power, and stand firm in the time of the end.