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describing areas of concern in God’s church – the Seventh-day Adventist church

Robert Folkenberg, unscrupulous ex-president of Seventh-day Adventists is dead

The Adventist Review has an article called: “Robert Folkenberg, Former Adventist Church President, Dead at 74”. It extolled all his good deeds, and glossed over his ouster in 1999 with the word “resigned”, as if it was something voluntary.

That article is telling a falsehood by making it appear that Mr. Folkenberg “resigned”, when in fact, he was forced out of his office for severe financial irregularites pointed out by GC chief auditor David Dennis and others.

Well, since AR will not allow my posts regarding the truth of the matter, I will post here. Robert Folkenberg was forced out of office because of financial irregularities, and probably even something so bad that it would have made newspaper headline scandal pages all over the country if it had been brought out in public. It did reach several newspapers as it was.

David Dennis, the chief auditor of the General Conference, a personal family friend, was kicked out for exposing Folkenberg’s shenanigans.

Here are some articles by Vance Ferrell regarding this issue:

“Tuesday, January 26, 1999
You will recall that 85% of an $8 million promissory note turned over to Robert Folkenberg, president of the General Conference, by James Moore, a Sacramento-based land developer, was supposed to have been issued by him to a California-based Catholic organization, Vicariatus Urbis Foundation (VUF), in which Moore was involved. An additional 15% was to be assigned to Sharing International of Tennessee (SIT).
Moore later discovered that Folkenberg had not carried out either transfer. The 85% was unaccounted for, and the 15% had been given to the bankruptcy estate of someone named Robert Dolan. These omissions had occurred without informing Moore. In other words, according to him, he had been robbed of 100% of the $8 million promissory note. This loss is the basis of Moore’s lawsuit. He wants to recover that money.
We have learned more about Sharing International of Tennessee (SIT), the nonprofit charitable organization which Folkenberg was involved in.”

So basically Folkenberg tried to steal 8 million dollars.

Here is more info on the case:

But the best resource on what all happened is the book “Fatal Accounts” that David Dennis actually wrote himself. The most disgraceful thing is how someone who supposedly leads God’s remnant people stoops to slander and spreading lies to viciously smear someone for doing their job for the church. I pray that David Dennis will forgive for what was done to him, and remember that even Jesus was murdered in the house of his friends.

I hope Bob Folkenberg repented of his evil deeds before his death, and that others in leadership positions will resolve to follow Jesus’ footsteps.

unconditional love spawns hate

The following is basically a repost of what i wrote on Advindicate on an article called “Too Much Jesus?”

I appreciate the generally civil tone while discussing the problems with unconditional love. One of the main problems in 1888 was that the leading brethren would not treat the young ministers (or Ellen White) with brotherly love. (^-^)

The point about unconditional love is the main point. It is not an idle statement I made when I said that this doctrine is the worst to enter the SDA church in my lifetime. It is the “root” if you will of the “branches” of other unscriptural doctrines such as unconditional pardon and salvation, which of course lead to unscriptural “fruit” such as “No matter what you do, you are OK with God”. Dig out the unscriptural roots, and the branches and fruit will automatically be disposed of.

Your definition of “unconditional” (absolute), is right as far as it goes, but it left out the main meaning – that of being “without conditions”. This is the meaning that is unscriptural.

In some ways, this discussion about unconditional love is similar to that about Justification/Sanctification. Justification is an act where any sinner who truly comes to God will be washed free from all sin, and seen by God as completely clean, all because of the infinite value of the blood of Christ. There is nothing the sinner can do to add to that value, just as there is nothing the sinner can do in order to “get” Christ’s love. It is a free gift, totally unmerited.

Most SDAs I know will agree completely with this explanation of Justification. However, when it comes to Sanctification, there are huge divides. There is a large group who are usually labelled “liberals/progressives” who say there is never anything for the sinner to do. It is all of Christ from start to finish, and nothing we do has any bearing on our salvation. Many of them do not say it quite so clearly, but that mindset is clear in their rejection of following inspired counsel on how to live our lives today. They have no absolute foundation to stand on, and some of their leaders understand that, but most of the followers agree with it because it does not involve a cross.

Proposed changes to 28 fundamental beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists

I was recently given info about the proposed changes to the 28 Fundamental Beliefs of SDAs. These were voted to be brought before the delegates at the San Antonio GC Session next year (2015). That propelled me to make a video where i show my recommendations on how to fix the proposed changes. What makes me wonder/upset, is that Br. Ted Wilson said that “We are simply adjusting wording to make it clearer and more helpful”, but especially in #18 about the Gift of Prophecy, it is very clearly bringing Ellen White’s authority as the Lord’s Messenger down a couple of notches.

I recommend changes to the proposed changes in

#1 The Holy Scriptures
#2 The Trinity
#4 The Son
#18 The Gift of Prophecy
#23 Marriage and the Family

While not a fan of gender-inclusive language, there are several places where it makes sense. Some of the places do not, like especially in number 4.

Anyway, i made a complete video, and then a highlight video about these changes. If you like them, please give them a thumbs-up and leave a comment. Even if you dont like them, or if you have other ideas on what to do, please leave a comment on the videos.

May we lift up the Remnant church, and call for repentance when due.

long version 28fundamentals

short version

Adventist-Muslim Relations still promoting Chrislam

In the Sep. 4, 2014 issue of Spectrum Magazine, there is an article by Keith Augustus Burton titled: “The IS and the US”. Since the Islamic State is a hot topic right now, I was very interested, so read it. While there were some good points made regarding the history behind the conflict, it was usual Marxist rhetoric about how the United States is such a terrible country. Yes, he actually put the Islamic State and the United States on the same plane!! Not only is this a reprehensible comparison, it goes against inspired writings that we should do nothing to make it appear that we are against our government.

It really makes me upset that anyone receiving the benefits of living in America would be so audacious as to equate a horrific, be-heading organization such as ISIS or IS or ISIL, whatever they are called today, with America, who has done more to maintain global peace and stability than any other country in the world for the last 70 years.

Br. Burton is the director of the Adventist-Muslim Relations Center at Oakwood University. He has a degree in Philosophy of Religion from Northwestern University. Why haven’t we SDAs learned yet that getting our “higher” training at a secular school is a sure recipe for falling away from Jesus? But then, we go and hire them to teach at our own universities because we need accreditation! It is sad to see how far away we have gone from God’s blueprint for our educational system.

I’ve had contact with AMR people over the years, and nearly all of them are basically into “Chrislam”, which states that the god of the Muslims and the God of the Christians is the same. That is blasphemy.

So yesterday I made this video to call on several AMR officers (and one layman) to repent:

Youtube video regarding Keith Augustus Burton and Adventist-Muslim Relations:

We should pray for our Seventh-day Adventist leaders to lift up Jesus Christ – the Son of God.

Seventh-day Adventist Diane Wagner breaks silence on abortion at ASI 2014 convention

Diane Wagner helps break the SDA church’s silence on abortion. Their focus is mostly on counseling post-abortive women. Perhaps this method of “helping those that are alive and hurting” will attract more attention among our SDA leadership than what I and others have done of showing our leaders how abortion is a sin. I pray that our SDA church will strongly denounce this nefarious practice, rescind the “Abortion Guidelines”, and come up to the standard to protect all life made in the image of God.

incest latest abomination to gain acceptance?

Australian judge says incest may no longer be a taboo.

Judge in Australia says incest may no longer be a taboo and the only reason it is criminal is potential birth abnormalities, which can be solved by abortion.

Entire Telegraph article here.

Judge Garry Neilson, from the district court in the state of New South Wales, likened incest to homosexuality, which was once regarded as criminal and “unnatural” but is now widely accepted.

What is interesting to me, is that stuff like this is exactly what was predicted by those pointing out the abomination of homosexuality. While they were/are roundly pooh-poohed as being sensationalistic, they are being proven correct.

One big argument that homosexuals use to support their abomination, is: “How can you deny love between two consenting adults?” That kind of logic opens the gates to incest, polygamy, and other abominations.

Of course God, who has told us what is good and what is bad, knew this, so warned us with his holy words to not do those abominations.

May society at large, our Seventh-day Adventist church, and each of us individually repent, and resolve to follow all the words of God.

spectrum magazine video

Today I put up a new video on youtube called “Spectrum Magazine banned”. It’s about how Spectrum, which is progressive/liberal magazine with a bent to tearing down basically everything Seventh-day Adventism stands for, is intolerant of views that don’t agree with their own. They do provide more details into stories that affect Seventh-day Adventists, and don’t just sugar-coat everything like the official SDA news sources always do, but their insistence on denigrating Ellen White and SDA doctrine is not the fruit of a holy spirit.

What is worse, is that many of their articles are even written by pastors and leaders and scholars in the SDA church itself!!

I pray those responsible for publishing Spectrum will repent, and turn back to the truth as it is in Jesus.

Liberty Magazine (NARLA) thinks religious hostility in America is good

I just made a new video to protest NARLA’s response to the fact that “The U.S. saw a marked increase in hostility toward religion starting in 2009”. Instead of decrying it, NARLA is spinning it as a “good thing”!!

The North American Religious Liberty Association (NARLA) is the Seventh-day Adventist Church’s member-driven organization dedicated to promoting liberty of conscience and freedom of religion, and combating religious intolerance at the local, state, and national levels.
(From the official website)
When I was little, I spent the beginning of
many Sabbaths reading Liberty Magazine.

(and Church & State, National Geographic,
Southern Tidings, Reader’s Digest etc.)
It was good to see them on the front lines,
standing tall for religious liberty everywhere
it was threatened, in America and abroad.
But it seems now the new leaders
don’t have the same desire to see
religious liberty for all, and instead
are more interested in following
the standard, liberal philosophy of:
“I’m OK, you’re OK”.
In January, 2014, Pew Research reported
“…the United States moved from the low
category of government restrictions as of
mid-2009 to the moderate category in
2010, where it remained in 2012.”
You would expect NARLA to be concerned
about religious liberty degradation not
only abroad, but in the United States too.

They are not, tho, as this video shows.
Isn’t it natural to expect her to
express her concern about the
degradation of religious liberty
in America here?
“The U.S. saw a marked increase in
hostility toward religion starting in
2009”. Yes, that sounds like
“bad news for religious folks”
to me. Not to you?
This is not a comparison with the
rest of the world. This is about
religious freedom. If NARLA is
just about comparing “relative
freedoms”, then they have no
meaning as an organization
Yes, people live in “local”
places, so it is natural that
religious freedom needs are
felt at the local level.
To be blunt about it, for the sake
of getting tax breaks from the govt.
the SDA church has made some
compromises with the gospel of
Jesus Christ. Instead of doing
everything to the glory of God,
we are more concerned about
keeping our tax breaks (mammon).
America has always been a “pluralistic
society”. NARLA Director, Melissa Reid,
have you considered what happened in
2009 to cause this “religious hostility”?
America voted in a new President who
is hostile to the Christian religion.
There you have it –
A “marked increase in hostility
toward religion” is spun by NARLA
to mean “Good, this might mean
more freedom for all”.

NARLA, you’ve just made yourself
irrelevant, and part of the problem,
rather than part of God’s solution.
I call on you, Melissa Reid, to repent,
and for all the NARLA workers to
get close to God’s word, and
resolve to honor God no matter the
cost to popularity with the world.

bible explorations tabernacles 2013 stephen dickie promotes islam

Bible Explorations, based in Terra Bella California, is doing more than any other Seventh-day Adventist group to promote the Statutes of the Lord, which include the holy days. This has been a wonderful revelation of truth to me, and i highly respect Pastor John VanDenburgh for his tireless efforts to get that word out. I even went to the Passover meetings held there in California in 2012.

So it was with shock that i read their September newsletter listing the speakers and talk titles for the upcoming October Tabernacles’ meetings – Stephen Dickie “Truth from the Qur’an”.

This is awful. This is like Moses inviting Korah to give a talk to the Israelites about the “Truth in the book of Baal worship”. With trepidation, i emailed Sandy Clark, the grand daughter of Pr. VanDenburgh, with the facts i know, hoping she would reconsider. Here is our entire email exchange:
Hello Sandy-san,
Just had to tell you all that i was really enjoying the September newsletter for Bible Explorations, when i noticed near the bottom that you all have invited Stephen Dickie to speak at Tabernacles!!!! His talk title? – “Truth in the Qur’an”.

Why was he invited?

I’ve spent a lot of time and energy refuting this man’s views that the Muslims and Christians worship the same God.
You can read what i’ve written about his writings and talks here:

stephen dickie “islam, god’s forgotten blessing” video review

“reaching islam made simple” review

new video on seventh-day adventists and islam

And here is a detailed study i did of the Qur’an, showing where it deviates from the Bible:

The God of the Bible is emphatic that he HAS a son.
The god of the Qur’an is emphatic that he has NO son.

Please reconsider having this agent of Satan speak at your Tabernacles meetings.
Keep looking to the Son of God,
Her reply:
He does NOT believe that way, he gets to the Muslims by way of ONE GOD and His Son. 🙂 Not sure what your arguments are but Steve does believe in the one God we do, and His son.
My reply:
I have been warning people about the false gospel of Stephen Dickie for about 5 years now.
I even made a video about how some fellow SDAs are promoting the false god of the Qur’an.
Please take a look:

The part showing that yes, Stephen Dickie does indeed say that Muslims and Christians worship the same God, is between 8:10 – 10:50 .

Please call on him to repent and worship the true God, and may you retract your speaking offer.
God bless as you pray about how to move forward, always keeping your eyes on Jesus,
Her reply:
They do worship the same one…some may not realize it but they have ONE God and it is God. They are like the Jews, believe in God but not His Son. I see no problem. Maybe you need to study more, too. 🙂 He is fine and helping them find Jesus which is a WONDERFUL thing!
My reply:
God is not mocked. Just because the Qur’an professes to believe the God of Abraham does not make it so. The Qur’an is emphatic that God has no son, but the Bible is emphatic that God has a son. This is clear enough that anyone willing to, can see that the Qur’an is not from God, and consequently, the god of the Qur’an is not the same as the God of the Abraham, because Abraham worshiped the true God, the one who has a son.

I do agree that we should show love to the Muslims. Many of them are much more sincere and searching for truth than we Seventh-day Adventist Christians are. Would Jesus shun them? Of course not, he would try his best to reach them where they were, and, here is the important difference between what we should really be doing as Christians, and what the Adventist-Muslim people are doing – is that we should be lifting up Jesus as the Son of God, the Saviour of the world.

The Qur’an, in referring to Isa, (which is claimed to be Jesus, but is not the true Jesus), says regarding Isa: Sura 43:59 He is nothing but a slave on whom We bestowed favour, and We made him a pattern for the Children of Israel.

But the Bible says: John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me.

Pretty clear here about how much the Qur’an really values the Son of God – nothing but a slave. In contrast, Jesus calls himself the way, the truth, and the life. Notice that there is no other way to God – either you go thru Jesus, or you just don’t get to God at all. This basic pillar of Christianity has been overlooked for far too long in the name of “all you need is love”.

This should be very easy to understand, as the Qur’an emphatically says that god has no son, while the Bible emphatically says that he DOES have a son.

Many of us Seventh-day Adventists seem to have forgotten who Jesus is, and are telling people that the god of the Qur’an is the same as the God of the Bible.

Sura 18:4 And to warn those who say: Allah has chosen a son, 5 (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that comes out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
1John 2:23 Anyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either.

It is amazing to me that any Seventh-day Adventist could forget that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is the only way to the one true God.

Please repent, Sandy, and believe in Jesus Christ,
Her reply:
Please stop insulting me. I do believe in Him. I do NOT believe in the trinity. I believe in the Father and His Son. Period. So what’s the big deal? Please stop, you are being rude and arrogant, Daniel. Some Muslims have a bad way of life, but many are like the Jews, believe in the One God of the Bible (The Bible says there is ONE GOD) and they just do not believe He had a son. I do and will teach them.

So this looks to be the end of our conversation. I will do my best to warn others, so that no one else will fall for the error of believing you can worship the Father without believing in his Son.

Jesus Christ, Son of God, how low will you let your people go before you will rise up and act?

collegedale tennessee adventists publicly show support for sodom

Collegedale, Tennessee, home of Southern Adventist University, has a population that is approximately half SDA. The town recently became the first in Tennessee to extend health benefits to those with same-sex spouses.
Collegedale vote on same-sex benefits

I’ve verified that at least 2 of those voting in FAVOR were SDAs.
SDAs vote for same-sex benefits

One of those SDAs voting in favor of the measure used this logic to support his case:

“What the Lord wants you to be is just, merciful, and humble. That’s my goal,” he said. “Why penalize someone when they’re born a certain way? … These people suffer enough, just give them a break.”

This is the fruit of preaching love, love, love, until love has no more meaning, so people can feel comfortable in a life of sin in direct opposition to God.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

1Corin 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

What does the pastor of the Collegedale Seventh-day Adventist church have to say about this abomination?

Wolf Jedamski, church administrator and pastor of global mission at Collegedale Church of Seventh-day Adventists, said that only about three congregants of the 3,000-member-plus congregation have called him worried about the issue.

“Some members see this as a homosexual issue or a marriage issue. The church sees this as a city issue, and we are not going to get involved in it,” Jedamski said. “It’s not really true anymore that the city of Collegedale is a city of Seventh-day Adventists. It’s grown much more diverse, and that’s a good thing.”

God couldn’t find even 10 righteous in Sodom.
We can’t find even 10 righteous in Collegedale.

seventh-day adventists and other churches

This is regarding the article titled “Seventh-day Adventists and Other Churches” in the June 20, 2013 Review. “article”

While it is customary to see officials in the Seventh-day Adventist church promote a watering down of the Three Angels Messages, it is still troubling to see it done with such disregard for historical facts.

For example, Ellen White did work with the Temperance movement. However, representatives from that movement did not come into our SDA churches and hold worship meetings with us. This is in stark contrast to what is happening now. In “Adventists and Lutherans in Conversation” which reports on the dialogues held between SDAs and LWFs in the 1994-1998 time frame, it says: “By spending many hours together in listening and seeking to understand, in agreeing and disagreeing, in eating and especially praying, we experienced the bonding of the Spirit under our one Lord Jesus Christ.” Also, “for the past 43 years the key person in the CWC has been a Seventh-day Adventist.” The Council for a Parliament of the World’s Religions reports several instances of SDAs worshipping with and even sponsoring their programs.

Author William Johnsson makes a statement that is one of the current “mantras” among modern-day leaders and members of the SDA church in rich countries: “On the other hand, we Adventists do not seek to be an exclusive church that shuns relations with other Christian bodies.”

We despise the word “exclusive”, and are constantly promoting the word “inclusive”. No more of that original hymnal put out by James White titled “Hymns for God’s peculiar people,: That keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus”. Now we want to be just like the other churches, no, just like the world as much as possible, so that no one can tell us apart, so we don’t suffer any embarrassment or feeling of “being different”.

I wonder if we will feel embarrassment when Jesus looks deep into our hearts and announces our eternal destiny?

To join with those not of our faith to promote the good of society is one thing, but to extrapolate that to mean that it is then OK to worship with them is entirely different.
2Cor 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

More links showing this feeling that we are all one, and showing instances where we have groveled to get other denominations/relgions to accept us:
“parliament of religions”
“SDA & Rome”
“Bert Beach”
“SDA & papacy”
“more Bert Beach and papacy”
“steps to rome”
“so much in common between WCC & SDA”

Please notice that many of the above links are to sites that i do not recommend! Sadly, many people who sigh and cry over the abominations being done in Jerusalem, refuse to follow the message of Ezekiel 9 to stay in Jerusalem.

May we be among those IN Jerusalem sighing and crying over the abominations done in its midst, and thus receive the seal of God in our foreheads.

sda church puts people in jail

Last month the SDA General Conference finally succeeded in imprisoning Pastor McGill. Now associate pastor Lucan Chartier has also been arrested.

Here are the news stories:–164677566.html

For those who don’t know what’s going on, the Seventh-day Adventist General Conference incorporated, and trademarked it’s name, in 1981, and has now been suing those who use the name “Seventh-day Adventist” (or even the word “Adventist”) without the approval of the General Conference. They claim they are suing people in order to protect the “good name” of the church.

The General Conference is using the civil government to accomplish it’s ends. This has led to persecution, confiscation of property, fines, and imprisonment, for those who felt they could not conscientiously give up the name “Seventh-day Adventist” because they believe from the Spirit of Prophecy it was a divinely ordained name (see 1T, 223).

The SDA church that claims to be fighting for freedom of religion is now using the power of the State to persecute those who desire to worship God according to their religious convictions.

The General Conference is doing the very thing that the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy told them not to do.

Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? (1Cor 6:1)

seventh-day adventists and women’s ordination video

Put up new video on YouTube today:

This video is to call on my fellow Seventh-day Adventists to follow the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy regarding the roles of men and women.

The immediate issue at hand is whether or not women should be ordained as pastors in the SDA church. As the details can be readily found on the web, i’ll just say that those supporting this, like most others that directly go against God’s word, are from the “rich” countries.

Now our General Conference leaders know what the Bible says about this, but to be politically correct they have avoided taking a stand on this issue so long that it has festered into an open sore where one Union, and probably more soon, are openly rebelling against their authority.

But what does God’s word say about this? Genesis 3:16 To the woman He said: “I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; Your desire [shall be] for your husband, And he shall rule over you.”

So one of the first things God establishes after sin enters the world is the relationship between men and women. 17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’: “Cursed [is] the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat [of] it all the days of your life.

But those who reject God’s words want men and women to be equal. Well, if they can roll back God’s words about men having rule over women, then may they also try their best to remove the curse from the ground so we don’t have to sweat for our food anymore, and not return to dust either.

seventh-day adventists and conspiracy theories video

Today i uploaded a new video on YouTube asking my fellow Seventh-day Adventists who are into conspiracy theories to stop, repent, and get out of that business altogether.

This is the script for the video:
Seventh-day Adventists and conspiracy theories

On the day the President of the United States takes the oath of office facing the pagan phallic symbol in Washington, “they” will start spraying chemtrails from it to fluoridate the water so the black helicopters can be directed to the hidden concentration camps on the “moon” set where the black pope will appear as an alien lizard shape-shifter, declare martial law, and prepare the way for the Bilderbergers to take all our money and then manipulate HAARP to erase all these dastardly things from our collective memory. BWAHAHA! I’ve got it all figured out, and you sheeple who believe whatever the mass media tells you are doomed, doomed!!! And by the way, send me a check or credit card number so i can get this vital information out to as many of God’s remnant people as possible!

This video is to call fellow Seventh-day Adventists who believe in conspiracy theories to repent and turn back to spreading the Three Angels’ Messages.
One common thread running thru all conspiracy theories is the idea that a hidden, super-powerful force that we can do nothing about is working to destroy us all. In that respect it is in accord with the SDA worldview of a Great Controversy Between Christ and His Angels and Satan and His Angels, the title of a book God had his messenger Ellen White write in 1858. Yes! there IS a big battle going on mostly unseen. This is what we Adventists should be focusing on – how to press forward the battle by spreading the truth as it is in Jesus. By focusing on these other things we are in fact helping the dark side in its battle with Christ.

new video on seventh-day adventists and islam

It’s been a long while in the gestation stage, and took much longer than planned to complete, but finally the video asking many leaders of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, of which i am a member, to repent for teaching that the god of Islam is the same as the God of the Christians, has been completed and uploaded to Youtube.

This should be very easy to understand, as the Qur’an emphatically says that god has no son, while the Bible emphatically says that he DOES have a son.

Many of us Seventh-day Adventists seem to have forgotten who Jesus is, and are telling people that the god of the Qur’an is the same as the God of the Bible.

Sura 18:4 And to warn those who say: Allah has chosen a son, 5 (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that comes out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
1John 2:23 Anyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either.

This video is to give information to those in the SDA church who may be wondering about Islam’s god, and to call God’s remnant church to repent for denying the Son of God.

The movie is around 20 minutes long, and is in 2 parts up on YouTube:

The entire script:
Once upon a time all Seventh-day
Adventists knew that Jesus
was the Son of God, and
that the only way to the
Father was thru him.
(John 14:6)

Then a shocking event occurred
on Sep. 11, 2001, causing a
rush of interest in studying
about Islam.