{"id":480,"date":"2011-10-21T15:01:07","date_gmt":"2011-10-21T08:01:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/great-controversy-movie.com\/blog\/?p=480"},"modified":"2011-11-18T17:59:41","modified_gmt":"2011-11-18T10:59:41","slug":"should-the-bride-teach-the-bridegroom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/great-controversy-movie.com\/blog\/should-the-bride-teach-the-bridegroom\/","title":{"rendered":"should the bride teach the bridegroom?"},"content":{"rendered":"

There is a very interesting discussion going on commenting on recent General Conference action to consider allowing commissioned ministers to be conference presidents. Quite unsurprisingly, it was brought up by the North American and European divisions. Why “unsurprisingly”? – because this motion is another step in having women be just like men in the church in positions of authority and responsibility. The world church still does not allow women to be ordained ministers (but does allow ordained elders!?), so nearly all of the current “commissioned ministers” are women according to my understanding.<\/p>\n

Praise God, this motion was defeated.
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It is very encouraging to see around 1\/2 the comments stand for the Word of God as revealed in 1Tim 2:12 “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” and 1Cor 14:34 ” the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak. Rather, let them be in submission, as in fact the law says.”<\/p>\n

To those who would say that “Ellen White would be disqualified if we followed the Bible today”, the Bible teaches in ICor 11:5 ” But any woman who prays or prophesies…” that it is perfectly fine for a woman to pray and prophesy – but no where does it say a woman should get up in front of men and teach them. There are absolutely no examples given of that in the Bible.<\/p>\n

One explanation is clearly seen in how Jesus considers his church (see Ephesians 5). He is the bridegroom, and we are the bride. Would it be a proper thing for his bride to start teaching him? When we say we are more “enlightened” than God, so now we will have women to rule over us, aren’t we in fact lessening the authority and sacredness of our lovely Saviour – Jesus Christ? <\/p>\n

Sad to say, we Seventh-day Adventists want to be just like the world as much as possible, so we elect women to be leaders over us. It is not surprising when those women elected leaders want to have the same privileges for all women as men currently have.<\/p>\n

Please understand i believe very strongly that this injunction against women teaching in the churces is not applicable when there are no men in the church, or when the men refuse their God-given responsibility. The strongest sermon i’ve heard live all year was by a woman lay-member at the Kobe church. But when there are men present, they are the ones who should be doing the teaching. That is God’s given instruction for proper order in the church.<\/p>\n

The reason this subject hit me hard when reading it today, is that i did not attend the Kobe church last Sabbath, because a woman was scheduled to preach. I told my reasons to one church elder, and she said that part of the Bible was “old”, then told another SDA member who said i was “sexist”. The pastor just sent me a reply yesterday, saying basically that it was a “cultural thing in Paul’s day”, plus “it would throw many women out of work today who are already teachers and pastors in our churches”. <\/p>\n

No, it is not surprising, as i know these type of excuses to disobey the Word of God are prevelant. It is still sad tho to meet face to face. I told them that if the Bible shows different, please inform me so i can fall into line. But otherwise, i would rather keep the Bible sayings and injunctions rather than disobey by calling parts of the Bible “old”, or calling God “sexist”, or worrying about how someone would lose their job for obeying Jesus. Another thing that is troubling about the pastor’s remarks (and please understand, he is the strongest\/most conservative pastor i’ve seen among currently-SDA-employed pastors in Japan), is that he is saying some of the exact same words people will use in the Time of Trouble to urge us to not be so strict about keeping the Sabbath of the Lord.<\/p>\n

Shouldn’t obeying God’s word be uppermost in our decision-making?
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There is a very interesting discussion going on commenting on recent General Conference action to consider allowing commissioned ministers to be conference presidents. Quite unsurprisingly, it was brought up by the North American and European divisions. Why “unsurprisingly”? – because this motion is another step in having women be just like men in the church …<\/p>\n

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