{"id":2047,"date":"2024-09-10T20:30:21","date_gmt":"2024-09-10T13:30:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/great-controversy-movie.com\/blog\/?p=2047"},"modified":"2024-09-10T20:32:41","modified_gmt":"2024-09-10T13:32:41","slug":"why-did-david-want-joab-dead","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/great-controversy-movie.com\/blog\/why-did-david-want-joab-dead\/","title":{"rendered":"Why did David want Joab dead?"},"content":{"rendered":"

I’m reading thru the Holy Bible again, and this story regarding David saying to his son Solomon:<\/p>\n

1Kings 2:5 Moreover thou knowest also what Joab the son of Zeruiah did to me, [and] what he did to the two captains of the hosts of Israel, unto Abner the son of Ner, and unto Amasa the son of Jether, whom he slew, and shed the blood of war in peace, and put the blood of war upon his girdle that [was] about his loins, and in his shoes that [were] on his feet.
\n6 Do therefore according to thy wisdom, and let not his hoar head go down to the grave in peace.<\/em><\/p>\n

really bothers me. It has bothered me before, but it really hit me this time that David was completely in the wrong on this matter. Following are my reasons.<\/p>\n

But what did Joab do that was bad?<\/h2>\n

He killed Abner<\/h3>\n

2Samuel 3:30 So Joab and Abishai his brother slew Abner, because he had slain their brother Asahel at Gibeon in the battle.<\/em><\/p>\n

Joab’s brother, Asahel, had been killed by Abner for no good reason – murdered.
\n2Samuel 2:22 And Abner said again to Asahel, Turn thee aside from following me: wherefore should I smite thee to the ground? how then should I hold up my face to Joab thy brother?
\n23 Howbeit he refused to turn aside: wherefore Abner with the hinder end of the spear smote him under the fifth [rib], that the spear came out behind him; and he fell down there, and died in the same place: and it came to pass, [that] as many as came to the place where Asahel fell down and died stood still.<\/em><\/p>\n

2Samuel 3:27 And when Abner was returned to Hebron, Joab took him aside in the gate to speak with him quietly, and smote him there under the fifth [rib], that he died, for the blood of Asahel his brother.<\/em><\/p>\n

\"Joab<\/a><\/p>\n

So Joab had killed someone that David did not want killed, but Joab was definitely within his rights, and in fact, commanded to kill Abner according to the Statutes of the Lord:
\nNumbers 35:18 Or [if] he smite him with an hand weapon of wood, wherewith he may die, and he die, he [is] a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.
\n19 The revenger of blood himself shall slay the murderer: when he meeteth him, he shall slay him.
\n20 But if he thrust him of hatred, or hurl at him by laying of wait, that he die;
\n21 Or in enmity smite him with his hand, that he die: he that smote [him] shall surely be put to death; [for] he [is] a murderer: the revenger of blood shall slay the murderer, when he meeteth him.<\/em><\/p>\n

In any case, Abner was the captain of the enemy’s army, someone who had sought to take David’s life, so it was odd that he trusted him to be peaceful with him suddenly after many years of fighting after his master, Saul, had died.<\/p>\n

He killed Amasa<\/h3>\n

Amasa had been made captain of rebel Absalom’s army:
\n2Samuel 17:25 And Absalom made Amasa captain of the host instead of Joab: which Amasa [was] a man’s son, whose name [was] Ithra an Israelite, that went in to Abigail the daughter of Nahash, sister to Zeruiah Joab’s mother.<\/em><\/p>\n

For some very strange reason, David wanted to make Amasa head of his own army, in place of Joab!
\n2Samuel 19:13 And say ye to Amasa, [Art] thou not of my bone, and of my flesh? God do so to me, and more also, if thou be not captain of the host before me continually in the room of Joab.<\/em><\/p>\n

The first task recorded that David gave Amasa was to gather the people together in 3 days in order to go fight rebel Sheba, the son of Bichri. But Amasa couldn’t do it:
\n2Samuel 20:4 Then said the king to Amasa, Assemble me the men of Judah within three days, and be thou here present.
\n5 So Amasa went to assemble [the men of] Judah: but he tarried longer than the set time which he had appointed him.<\/em><\/p>\n

2Samuel 20:10 But Amasa took no heed to the sword that [was] in Joab’s hand: so he smote him therewith in the fifth [rib], and shed out his bowels to the ground, and struck him not again; and he died. So Joab and Abishai his brother pursued after Sheba the son of Bichri.<\/em><\/p>\n

This seems like just good, common sense to me. Joab had meekly submitted to being set aside as leader of David’s army after protecting him all these years for a young upstart who had been captain of the rebel son’s army, and when the new general couldn’t fulfill the command of the king, which endangered the king’s life, Joab took action. After killing Amasa, he went on to take care of Sheba in the somewhat-famous story of attacking the city Sheba was in, an elderly woman calling out to him asking him why he was destroying a city of Israel, then throwing the head of Sheba down to Joab to stop the battle.<\/p>\n

Joab seems to be the mightiest of the “Mighty Men”<\/h3>\n

Just the fact that Joab’s name is conspicuously missing from the “Mighty Men” list in 2Samuel 23 is odd, especially considering that his two brothers who did not attain to his level are both mentioned as “Mighty Men”, and that in the very next chapter Joab is referred to as “captain of the host”. It goes without saying that the captain of the host is more important than any of the host!<\/p>\n

So what’s David’s problem with Joab?<\/h3>\n
\"Joab<\/a>
Joab grabs horns of altar where Benaiah finds him and strikes him dead.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

It IS true that Joab sided with Adonijah, Solomon’s brother, to make him king. This was a big mistake. But this is not given as a reason by either David or Solomon for execution. Joab had even been more righteous than David in NOT wanting to carry out the king’s wicked order to count the people of Israel.<\/p>\n

So in the end, I don’t know. It is interesting to see that Joab was David’s cousin. Also interesting, is that Amasa was David’s cousin too. The Bible facts are that Joab did a great job leading David’s army, protecting David, and doing everything that the captain of the host is supposed to do. He is absolutely right in avenging his brother’s blood, and probably right in taking care of the general who failed to carry out the king’s order, thus endangering the king’s life. It is interesting to me that both of these men were leaders of armies that were enemies of David. Joab made an error in supporting Adonijah as king after David.<\/p>\n

My best guess is that David never forgave Joab for striking down his son Absalom when David had specifically told him not to. On top of that, Joab rightly got angry at David after that battle when David showed more, inordinate, selfish love for his rebel son than for all those who had risked their lives to save King David.<\/p>\n

Who knows, maybe David and Joab will meet in heaven and talk it over.<\/p>\n

Any ideas on this?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I’m reading thru the Holy Bible again, and this story regarding David saying to his son Solomon: 1Kings 2:5 Moreover thou knowest also what Joab the son of Zeruiah did to me, [and] what he did to the two captains of the hosts of Israel, unto Abner the son of Ner, and unto Amasa the …<\/p>\n

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